Patrick and Eric in the Morning

32 - Patrick and Eric in the Morning - Wolfgang Kramer / Michael Kiesling

Recorded 11/22/2020


  • El Grande - Wolfgang Kramer, Richard Ulrich

  • Colosseum - Wolfgang Kramer, Markus Lübke

  • 6 nimmt - Wolfgang Kramer

  • Seeland - Günter Burkhardt, Wolfgang Kramer

  • Azul - Michael Kiesling

  • Azul: Stained Glass of Sintra - Michael Kiesling

  • Azul: Summer Pavilion - Michael Kiesling

  • Azul: Crystal Mosaics

  • Vikings - Michael Kiesling

  • Downforce - Rob Daviau, Justin D. Jacobson, Wolfgang Kramer

  • The Palaces of Carrara - Michael Kiesling, Wolfgang Kramer


Michael Kiesling:

  • Azul

  • Azul: Stained Glass of Sintra

  • Azul: Summer Pavilion

  • Vikings

Wolfgang Kramer:

  • 6 nimmt

  • Seeland

  • El Grande

  • Downforce (restored from Tempo, Kramer’s first published game, which was updated as Top Race, Daytona 500, etc.)


  • Tikal (Mask Trilogy) Java and Mexica

  • Torres 

  • The Palaces of Carrara

Haven’t played:

  • Colosseum, Java/Mexica (Kramer)

  • Heaven & Ale (Kieling)

  • Paris (co-design)

Website you can play online:

  • Torres

  • El Grande

  • The Palaces of Carrara

  • Torres

  • Vikings

  • 6nimmt,

  • Palaces of Carara 




  • Palaces was a SDJ nominee in 2012

  • El Grande DSJ 1996


  • Azul 2018

  • Heaven and Ale nominee 2018


  • Tikal 1999

  • Torres 2000


Patrick & Eric catch up after not recording for a while. This episode was recorded on 9/3/2020 and the last episode on 8/8/2020.  Since the last episode they have been meeting up and playing games virtually such as:

  • Super-Skill Pinball: 4-Cade
  • Clever hoch drei (AKA Ganz schön clever three)
  • Marco Polo (Patrick Won)

Topic - House Rules:

  • Sagrada
  • Marrakesh 
  • Isle of Cats
  • Copenhagen Dice
  • Nova Luna

Start Player Rules - Patrick's geetlist

Who chooses what games to play?









Direct download: 31_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Catching_up_Rules.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:20pm EST

Patrick and Eric return to their designer spotlight series - Reiner Knizia

Reiner Knizia

  • Recent Plays
    • My City
    • Tutankhamun
  • Auction Games
    • Ra 
    • Modern Art
  • "Numbers on Art"
    • En Garde
    • Shotten Totten
    • Lost Cities
    • Llama

“Reiner Knizia is also criticized that his games are all dry, mathematical affairs, and unfortunately, he can't dodge the bullet completely on this one.” - Some person on BGG

How does theme impact his games?

  • Abstracts
    • Ingenious
    • Tigris and Euphrates

"Kenizia scoring" i.e. lowest track scores.

Misc games

  • Star Trek Expeditions
  • Through The Desert (or Dessert if you eat the camels)
  • Quest of El Dorado
  • Age of War/Risk Express
  • En Garde in detail

Awards and nominations -

  • Kinder - Who Was It?
  • Speil - Keltis

Co-operative games

  • Lord of the Rings

"Remember: When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning..."


Direct download: 30_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Patrick_and_Eric_Bow_Tie_one_on.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:30am EST

Recorded 7/26/2020

Patrick and Eric discuss Storytelling Games

They start off discussing the many different kinds of storytelling games:

  • RPGs 
  • Escape room games 
  • Detective games 
  • Graphic Novel Adventures and Choose Your Own Adventures 
  • Board games with story elements
    • Tales of the Arabian Nights - Agents of Smersh
    • Rory’s Story Cubes
    • Above and Below
    • Near and Far
    • Dead of Winter (the original Crossroads game)
    • Forgotten Waters
  • Games that are so thematic they lend themselves to the players telling stories without overtly having storytelling mechanisms (e.g. Fortune and Glory) - Colosseum
Direct download: 29_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_StoryTelling.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 10:00am EST

Recorded 6/14/2020

Patrick and Eric reiterate their Black Lives Matter stance


The go on to discuss recent news in the board gaming community.

Cards Against Humanity #CAHisOver


Reddit r/boardgames moderators all quit

New location is


Boardgamegeek RSP (Religion Sex Politics)

Moved to a guild - "harder to find"


GAMA / Origins Online / Origins







Direct download: 28_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Board_Gaming_Dumpster_Fires.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 3:13pm EST

Recorded 5/24/2020


Holiday weekend plans


Quickbread recipe



1/2 cup butter

1/2 cup sugar

2 eggs

2 cups flour

2 tsp baking powder

1/2 cup milk

1 cup chocolate chips 



Cream together butter and sugar, then add eggs one at a time. 


Mix flour and baking powder, then mix with butter-sugar-egg mix alternating with milk. Stir in chocolate chips.


Bake in greased and floured loaf pan or crock at 350F for one hour.


Canceled conventions (as of 6/7/20)


  • Essen Speil
  • Gencon
  • Geekway
  • BBG at Sea
  • BBG November?
  • Origins (November?)
  • PAX


Virtual Conventions

  • Renegade
  • Portal
  • Origins
  • BGG

Online gaming

  • Terraforming Mars
  • Scythe

Recorded 5/2/2020

Patrick and Eric discuss recent on line plays

  • Hawiaii
  • Pompei
  • Tobago
  • Targi 

Main show topic is a recent play of Fiasco with Chris Whitpan @gameallniteshow

Module: Murder on the Disorent Express

Guests: Us, Pep McDonald, BJ of Boardgame Gumbo, Victor Schwartzmiller.

Also mentioned is a game of Just one about to be played with other Punch Board Media creators.

Fiasco capture


Just One Game -



Direct download: 26_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_This_one_is_a_Fiasco.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 12:00pm EST

In lieu of playing games lately Patrick & Eric do an Ask Me Anything episode:



  • Instapot
  • Sous Vide
  • Slow Cooker




  • Star Wars
  • Twilight Zone/Outer Limits
  • Star Trek: Picard
  • Mindhunter
  • Tiger King
  • Hunters
  • The Boys


  • Iron Man
  • Watchmen
  • The Boys


Direct download: 25_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_AMA.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 7:00am EST

Recorded a Granite Game sumit with special guests Daniel Newman, Brandon Rojas, Jason Lees, Christ Michaud, and Jared Hunnefeld.

General discussion topic was top 10ish things to do at a convention.

Direct download: 24_Patrick_and_Eric_-_Live_at_Granite_Game_Summit.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 1:53pm EST

Patrick and Eric in the Morning: Episode 23 - Culling

This episode Patrick and Eric discuss latest news and how they chose and cull games from their collection.

Recorded 2/29/2020

Getting ready for Granite Game Summit

Plaid Hat News

What inspires you to cull?

What do you cull?

How do you cull?

  • Give it away to charity
  • Give it to friends 
  • Math trade
  • Selling at a VFM

Do you pay BGG?

Direct download: 23_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Culling.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 6:00am EST

This episode Patrick and Eric discuss favorite games played in 2019.  Recorded 2/2/2020


  • Patrick - 2019 and new to me
  • Illusion - 2018
  • Circle the Wagons (2017) NTM
  • Jamaica (NTM)
  • Quacks (2018)
  • Mall Madness (1989)
  • Slide Quest (2019)
  • Era (2019)
  • Just One (2018)
  • Horrified (2019) Patrick’s Game of the Year

Honorable Mention

  • Snail Sprint
  • Wingspan


  • Copenhagen
  • Exceed: Street Fighter
  • Silver and Gold
  • Point Salad
  • Escape Plan
  • Roam
  • Taverns of Tiefenthal
  • Tiny Towns 
  • Cartographers

Honorable Mention

  • Lockup: A Roll Player Tale
  • Quirky Circuits
  • Megacity Oceania

Granite Game Summit



Direct download: 22-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_2019_games.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 9:20pm EST

Episode 21 - Patrick and Eric discuss their favorite games beyond 500 in the BGG rankings.


Christmas Gifts


Parks / Trekking the National Parks


Patrick and Eric Hidden gems over 500 on the BGG listing


Game Rank

Get Bit! 2159

Crystal Clans 2210

Pastiche 1364

Longhorn 2077

La Boca 1200

Custom Heroes 1681

The Great Heartland Hauling Co. 1170

Artifacts Inc. 1135

Arctic Scavengers 1127

Odin’s Ravens (2nd ed) 1076

The Golden Ages 849

Ulm   929

Sid Meier's Civilization: A New Dawn 670 2017

Dice Town 796

Honshu 792

The Pursuit of Happiness 646

Hawaii 630

Adrenaline 617

Ex Libris 613


Scott Nicolson Pillars of the Earth bit


Granite Game Summit




Direct download: 21_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_BGG_Games_over_500.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 7:23am EST

Patrick and Eric in the Morning Episode 20 - Dexterity Games

Recorded 12/1/19


Knives Out banter



  • Operation
  • Topple



  • PitchCar
  • Coconuts
  • Ice Cool
  • Crokinole
  • Flip Ships
  • Table is Lava
  • Flick Em Up
  • Mars Open



  • Junk Art
  • Rhino Hero / Rhino Hero: Super Battle
  • Riff Raff
  • Hamsterole
  • Rock me Archimedes
  • Catch the Moon
  • Meeple Circus
  • Brick Party



  • Jenga
  • Tok Tok Woodman



  • Fold It
  • Slide Quest
  • Shaky Manor
  • Chopstick Mega Dexterity Challenge 3000
  • Flying Sushi Kitchen
  • Maze Racers
  • Loopin Chewie
  • Drop It



  • Looney Quest/Doodle Quest
  • Obligatory: Carcassonne Catapult mention, Coaster Park


Direct download: 20_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Dexterity_Games.mp3
Category:Board Games -- posted at: 7:00am EST