Patrick and Eric in the Morning (general)

Episode 36

Patrick and Eric discuss "Abstract Games"

“Abstract” from BGG:

"Abstract game" often refers to games of perfect information with alternating turns and no randomness; usually for 2 players. e.g. Chess or Go.

It is also often used to refer to a game without a theme (regardless of the game mechanics). E.g. Backgammon or Tantrix.

It is also often used to refer to games that are "mostly" perfect information and "mostly" lacking in theme (leading to even more confusion and disagreement about whether a given game is an "abstract game" or not).


  • Checkers
  • Chess
  • Xiangqi
  • Go
  • Mancala
  • Reversi/Othello (1883)


  • Gipf Series (Gipf, Yinch, etc)
  • Shobu
  • Canosa
  • Tak
  • Blokus
  • Amazons
  • Onitama
  • Quoridor 
  • Quarto
  • Quantik

Abstracts with Theme:

  • Battle Sheep
  • Patchwork
  • Hive
  • Santorini

Abstracts with Luck:

  • Backgammon
  • Nova Luna
  • Qwirkle
  • Number 9
  • Ingenious

Abstracts with Theme and Luck:

  • Azul and sequels
  • War Chest
  • The Duke
  • Calico
  • Seikatsu
Direct download: 36_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Abstracts.mp3
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Episode 35

Patrick and Eric discuss favorite Racing Games

They start up talking about growing up watching real racing.


Long Shot: The Dice Game 

Long Shot the Original

Camel Cup

Mint Julep

Snow Tails

Formula D



Rallyman/Rallyman GT

Thunder Alley


Wacky Races

Power Boats (remade as Powerships)


Flamme Rouge

Steampunk Rally

Quicksilver (balloons)

Missippi Queen (steam paddleboats)

Oden’s Ravens


Granite Game Summit show 3/13/21 at 11:00am




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Patrick & Eric catch up after not recording for a while. This episode was recorded on 9/3/2020 and the last episode on 8/8/2020.  Since the last episode they have been meeting up and playing games virtually such as:

  • Super-Skill Pinball: 4-Cade
  • Clever hoch drei (AKA Ganz schön clever three)
  • Marco Polo (Patrick Won)

Topic - House Rules:

  • Sagrada
  • Marrakesh 
  • Isle of Cats
  • Copenhagen Dice
  • Nova Luna

Start Player Rules - Patrick's geetlist

Who chooses what games to play?









Direct download: 31_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Catching_up_Rules.mp3
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Patrick and Eric return to their designer spotlight series - Reiner Knizia

Reiner Knizia

  • Recent Plays
    • My City
    • Tutankhamun
  • Auction Games
    • Ra 
    • Modern Art
  • "Numbers on Art"
    • En Garde
    • Shotten Totten
    • Lost Cities
    • Llama

“Reiner Knizia is also criticized that his games are all dry, mathematical affairs, and unfortunately, he can't dodge the bullet completely on this one.” - Some person on BGG

How does theme impact his games?

  • Abstracts
    • Ingenious
    • Tigris and Euphrates

"Kenizia scoring" i.e. lowest track scores.

Misc games

  • Star Trek Expeditions
  • Through The Desert (or Dessert if you eat the camels)
  • Quest of El Dorado
  • Age of War/Risk Express
  • En Garde in detail

Awards and nominations -

  • Kinder - Who Was It?
  • Speil - Keltis

Co-operative games

  • Lord of the Rings

"Remember: When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning..."


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In lieu of playing games lately Patrick & Eric do an Ask Me Anything episode:



  • Instapot
  • Sous Vide
  • Slow Cooker




  • Star Wars
  • Twilight Zone/Outer Limits
  • Star Trek: Picard
  • Mindhunter
  • Tiger King
  • Hunters
  • The Boys


  • Iron Man
  • Watchmen
  • The Boys


Direct download: 25_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_AMA.mp3
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Patrick and Eric in the Morning: Episode 23 - Culling

This episode Patrick and Eric discuss latest news and how they chose and cull games from their collection.

Recorded 2/29/2020

Getting ready for Granite Game Summit

Plaid Hat News

What inspires you to cull?

What do you cull?

How do you cull?

  • Give it away to charity
  • Give it to friends 
  • Math trade
  • Selling at a VFM

Do you pay BGG?

Direct download: 23_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Culling.mp3
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This episode Patrick and Eric discuss favorite games played in 2019.  Recorded 2/2/2020


  • Patrick - 2019 and new to me
  • Illusion - 2018
  • Circle the Wagons (2017) NTM
  • Jamaica (NTM)
  • Quacks (2018)
  • Mall Madness (1989)
  • Slide Quest (2019)
  • Era (2019)
  • Just One (2018)
  • Horrified (2019) Patrick’s Game of the Year

Honorable Mention

  • Snail Sprint
  • Wingspan


  • Copenhagen
  • Exceed: Street Fighter
  • Silver and Gold
  • Point Salad
  • Escape Plan
  • Roam
  • Taverns of Tiefenthal
  • Tiny Towns 
  • Cartographers

Honorable Mention

  • Lockup: A Roll Player Tale
  • Quirky Circuits
  • Megacity Oceania

Granite Game Summit



Direct download: 22-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_-_2019_games.mp3
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Patrick & Eric started to talk about expansions but quickly veered off into discussion about Kickstarter and other topics.  Recorded on 10/5/19.




Legends of Sleepy Hollow


Campaign update -




Sovereign Skies


Kickstarter CEO Statement


Loanshark Games comments


Cleopatra and the Society of Architects


Scott King Calendar










Break Kickstarter: Soup!


Bag of Spiders

Tower by the Warden


Wendy’s RPG


Eric: @ericbuscemi

Patrick: @overthehillier

Direct download: 16_-_Patrick_and_Eric_in_the_Morning_Kickstarter.mp3
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Recorded 09/07/2019 - Patrick & Eric discuss their favorite two player games.

Met the listener Nathan Boster





Lost Cities

Lost Cities (Rivals) actually 2-4

Star Realms

Ascension (1-4 per BGG)




Two-Player Versions of Existing Games


7 Wonders Duel

Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small

Imhotep Duel

Kingdomino Duel

Codenames Duet

Bohnanza: The Duel


Direct Conflict Games

Magic the Gathering

Summoner Wars

Dice Masters

Star Wars: Destiny

Pixel Tactics


Battle Con



Othello (or Reversi?)


Xiangqi (Chinese Chess)



The Duke

War Chest

Hive (made of phenolic resin ie Bakelite)







Android: Netrunner

Skulk Hollow


Mr. Jack / Pocket

Getaway Driver



Card Games

Fox in the Forest

Fox in the Forest Duet (upcoming cooperative version)

Circle the Wagons

Ahead in the Clouds





Hollandspiele Interview mentioned 

Twilight Struggle

Star Wars X-wing/Armada/Rebellion (2-4)

Star Trek Fleet Captains (2-4)



Android NetRunner

Skulk Hollow 

Mr. Jack

Blood of an Englishmen

The Ravens of Thri Sahashri 

Getaway Driver



Hidden Gems



En Guard (Eric needs to play)

Odin’s Ravens

Direct download: 15_two_player_games2.mp3
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Episode 11 the Origins Preview

Recorded on 6/8/19

Games discussed:


7 Souls

Lanterns Dice: Lights in the Sky

Lockup: A Roll Player Tale

Dead Man's Cabal

The Few and Cursed

The Refuge: Terror from the Deep


Abomination: The Heir of Frankenstein

UBOOT: The Board Game


Dark Domains

In the Hall of the Mountain King


Die Tavernen im Tiefen Thal



LOTS: A Competitive Tower Building Game

Letter Jam

Snail Sprint!

Giant Rhino Hero

Rival Networks

Mississippi Queen

Punchboard Media Meetup - Friday at 9:30 in the Unpub Room A123 - A125

Find out more about Origins at our Cubist Appearance

@ovethehillier Thur AM-Sunday

@ericbuscemi Wed-Saturday PM

Direct download: 11_Patrick__Eric_in_the_Morning_-_Origins_Preview.mp3
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Patrick and Eric start of some spoiler talk about Avengers:Endgame - skip to 8:02 or so to miss this part.  

They they talk about growing up and playing games with their mothers and current gaming with their kids and their mothers.

Direct download: 10_WDYPTW_Patrick__Eric_-_Mothers_Day.mp3
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Patrick & Erick continue their discussion of their trip to the Granite Game Summit in Nashua, NH


Lords of Vegas

Tag City



Tokyo Highway

Between Two Castles of Mad King Ludwig


Just One


5 minutes dungeon


Direct download: 09_Patrick_and_Eric_G2S_Part_2.mp3
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Patrick and Eric discuss a recent trip to Granite Game Summit board game convention in Nashua, NH. Part one of two.


Games Discussed:

  • Cribbage
  • Piepmatz
  • Chai
  • War Chest
  • Handsome
  • Jamaica
  • Cleopatra and the Society of Architects
  • Burgle  Bros
  • High Rise
  • Vikings
  • Kings Cribbage
  • Las Vegas
  • The Magnificent Race
Direct download: Patrick__Eric_in_the_Morning_08_G2S_Part1.mp3
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Patrick and Eric chat about the holidays and then move on to the different types of escape room in a box style games they have played.

Direct download: patrick_and_eric_episode_06_escape_room_games.mp3
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Issue no.4

The Sweet Spot with Glenn Flaherty :20

  • Glob Lobbers
  • Steve Jackson Games

The Eric Booth Rants and Reviews 3:18

  • Sprawlopolis

The App Segment with Patrick Hillier 7:21

  • Old Gamer Talk
  • Talisman

The News Segement with Eric Buscemi 19:50

  • Game Announcements
  • Eurazo Sale
  • NSKN & Boards & Dice Merger
  • CMON Financial News
  • Digital Board Game Announcements
  • FFG Keyforge Recalls

Table Top, The Industry with Cassie Elle 24:12

  • The Publisher

The Thing with That Is with Chad McCallum 33:06

  • Discover: Lands Unknown

Heavy Hitters with Joshua Acosta 42:13

  • Tales of the Northlands: The Sagas of Noggin the Nog

Spice It Up with BJ Rozas 52:02

  • Top 6 Games - The Envie List

Fin 1:00:59

Direct download: Issue_no4.mp3
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Please join Patrick and Brandon as they sit down and chat with Helaina Cappel & Mark Specter about gaming and their current Kickstarter, Endeavor.


Direct download: marc_n_heliana_final.mp3
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Summoner Wars
Designed by Colby Dauch
Art by John Ariosa & Gary Simpson
Published by Plaid Hat Games

Intro with Eric Buscemi :35

Rules overview with Brandon Kempf 3:54

Tony Miller 8:12

Craig Marks 13:30

Derek Davis 17:56

Outro 22:34

End 23:46

Music Attributions:

Blanks by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License.
Laid Back Fuzz by Podington Bear is licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License.
Movin On Up by Podington Bearis licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 International License.

Direct download: Summoner_Wars_Final.mp3
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Week 125

Intro :30

Systems Mastery with Craig Marks 1:37

Learning From and Through Board Games with Jamie Maltman 7:41

  • Notre Dame
  • Lords of Waterdeep
  • Roll through the Ages: The Bronze Age
  • Star Wars: Imperial Assault
  • Sagrada
  • Glass Road
  • Karuba
  • Concordia
  • Strike
  • Dinosaur Island
  • Gathering of Friends visit Snakes and Lattes

Patrick Hillier, the Over the Hillier Gamer 23:48

  • Sagrada(Solo Only)
  • Roll Player(Solo)
  • Onirim App
  • Jaipur App
  • Tokaido App
  • Eric Buscemi

Mason A Weaver 33:08

  • Morels
  • Morels Foray

Brandon Kempf Babbles 35:27

  • Century: Spice Road
  • Pandemic
  • NMBR9
  • Sagrada

Outro 52:02

End 53:18

Direct download: Week_125.mp3
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Week 122

Intro :35

The Eric Booth Reviews 2:07

  • **Circle the Wagons**

Learning From and Through Board Games with Jamie Maltman 6:36

  • Oceanos
  • Small World + River World + Spider's Web + Royal Bonus
  • 30 Rails
  • Fauna
  • Deus + Egypt
  • Alea Iacta Est
  • Maze Racers
  • Galaxy Trucker
  • Junk Art - by our own city rules
  • Subdivision
  • A Feast for Odin
  • Manhattan Project Energy Empire
  • Voyages of Marco Polo
  • Science Games - Cytosis by Genius Games

Two Minutes with Travis Hill 17:02

  • Sick Days
  • The Colonists

The Rambling Review with Johannes Lindrupsen 19:12

  • Gloomhaven
  • Anachrony
  • **ManaForge**

The Highlights & Lowlights with Jessica Wade 28:59

  • UnPub Baltimore, MD
  • Ladder 29
  • Favelas
  • Mystery Rummy Jekyll & Hyde
  • TransEuropa
  • Airlines Europe
  • King of Tokyo
  • Evo
  • Winner’s Circle

App Stats with Donny Behne 47:14

  • Ginkgopolis
  • Dice Stars
  • Viceroy
  • Qwixx
  • Arkham Horror The Card Game
  • Codex Card Time Strategy
  • Gloomhaven
  • Too Many Bones
  • Grimslingers
  • Quests of Valeria
  • Villages of Valeria

On the Road with Mason Weaver 56:55

  • Plano Boxes
  • Plano 3600
  • Plano 3500
  • Plano 3700
  • PlastiBands Box Bands

Spotlight On with Eric Buscemi 1:02:02

  • Compounded Lab Notes
  • Fleet Dicey Waters
  • The Raves of Thri Sahashri
  • Takenoko
  • Camel Up
  • Ice Cool
  • Ten Minutes to Kill
  • **Deadlands RPG**
  • Granite Games Summit

Kerensa, Gabby & Brandon Babble 1:09:39

  • **Kingdomino**
  • Analysis Paralysis

Outro 1:38:11

End 1:39:28



Direct download: Week_122.mp3
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Join us, as Patrick and Mason sit down and talk with the wonderful Crystal Pisano!


Direct download: Crystal_Pisano_Complete.mp3
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Welcome to another edition of the Conversation Thing, this week your hosts Brandon and Patrick sit down and talk with Clay Ross, the brains behind Capstone Games.

Pre-Order Haspelknecht Here

Follow Capstone Games on Twitter Here

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Follow Capstone Games over on Instagram as well

Be sure to give us feedback, we love hearing from listeners and any advice is always taken to heart. 

Reviews, we love them and would love to see more over on iTunes, the more reviews we get over there, the more people will notice our little podcast and more fantastic guests like Clay we can get on the show.

Thank you all for listening!!

Direct download: Clay_Ross_of_Capstone_Games_Interview.mp3
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You know that whole hour to an hour and a half thing I said, forget about it, there is no way I would drop this episode down to that time frame, I wouldn't get to share everything that's fantastic about this show!! We're packed, we're loaded and we're ready to rock! We talk a lot of Haba in this episode, but we talk a lot of other fantastic games too as you'll see in the notes!!

AnnaBeth's Story Cubes 2:41

  • Rhino Hero
  • Gooey Louie

A Conversation with Lea Culliton, President of Haba USA 9:24

Mike Risley 50:18

  • Karuba
  • Adventure Land
  • Spookies

Kerensa, Gabby and Brandon 56:30

  • Spookies
  • Tambuzzi
  • Adventure Land
  • Animal Upon Animal-Crest Climbers

The Eric Booth Reviews 1:17:57

  • Imperial Settlers
  • 51st State Remaster

Jessica's Highlights and Lowlights 1:29:40

  • Uchronia
  • Mysterium
  • Puerto Rico
  • Zooloretto
  • Dixit
  • Pirates of the 7 Seas
  • Pandemic: Legacy
  • Yspahan

Derek Davis' Evolving Review 1:45:26

Walkthrough Talkthrough 1:56:09

  • Karuba

Patrick's Over the Hillier 2:15:42

  • Mille Borne
  • Qwixx
  • Secret Code 13+4
  • Monster Torte

Kerensa's Closing Dedication 2:22:43

End 2:25:24

Direct download: Week_77.mp3
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